Started by Pete, October 01, 2008, 10:18:34 pm
Quote from: Wordsmith on April 09, 2009, 01:02:26 pmI guess taking the scripture about any one saying to this mountain be thou removed, be thou cast into the sea and shall not doubt in his heart. That mountain will move. I remember taking it very literal when I was a young girl, and tried it. The mountian didn't go anywhere. There was no need for the mountain to be moved. LOL..but oh, the possibilites of that kind of faith. Have had enough "mountains" in my life that have moved with the understanding it didn't have to be a leteral mountian range.
Quote from: LittleRocketBoy on April 09, 2009, 01:27:14 pmI guess I had read this verse a thousand times before I actually saw what it was saying.It does not say that someone with the God kind of faith "believes the mountain would move..."It says that one with the God kind of faith "believes that whatever he says comes to pass..." Very big difference.The God kind of faith is the kind of faith that creates universes. God believes that "whatever He says" comes to pass. When He speaks whatever His words describe comes to pass. Jesus was explaining that this is why the fig tree dried up. It dried up because He knows that whatever He says (and does not doubt in His heart) comes to pass.People who "test" this and then decide it does not work need to understand that they have to possess the God kind of faith for it to work as Jesus described.I have spoken things and known that I have what I said. But not everything. But those things that I did say and that did come to pass.. I knew without a doubt that I had what I said before anything actually happened. When it did happen I was not surprized a bit. In my heart and mind I already knew it happened. That is the God kind of faith.peace dids
Quote from: Wordsmith on April 09, 2009, 02:02:53 pmYes, I agree. I too saw it was the God kind of faith that had to be present. And this is what God possesses. I would say probably only about 5 or 6 times in my life that I knew I had what I had spoken, before it manifested. It's a wonderful thing when that happens, where no doubt is even present.
QuoteDids..When Jesus said "Have the faith of God..." it does not sound like a suggestion, rather it seems like He is telling us to do what He did. Now how you get to the place where you know that everything you say comes to pass... that is a hard one! Jesus knew it.
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