August 14, 2020, 09:20:18 pm

Retirement Sucks

Started by JohnDB, July 13, 2020, 07:23:46 pm

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JohnDB

Ok...
With all the quarantines and my knee having severe issues...
It's almost like retirement.

I'm not sure that I like this. I'm really bored.

I built a new dining room table.
I'm researching leatherwork for a new tool bag that I'm wanting to create.

I've cleaned and cooked and read books...
I'm bored.

I need something else. I can't keep this up for a whole lot longer. Granted they are treating my knee and soon I'll be back to work...
I don't think that I can do retirement in Nashville. I need something more to fill and fulfill my time.

I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady

I know exactly what you mean! I was still working, albeit part-time, until I had to have a revision on my second knee replacement which had developed a loose implant. This second surgery was quite difficult and subsequently, the recovery was horrendous as well. The knee has only just settled down to a normal, pain-free pattern but that after about seven months, just as the lock-down came about. So then I had no excuse to sit around and do little or nothing! Only now am I beginning to get started on regular house work and gardening!

So what issues are you experiencing, my friend? Perhaps I could help a bit.

I really miss being about to go out to work, not every day but 3-4 days a week. So I do understand what you mean about life being boring. The only thing that would make any difference would be to have some kind of a job. I often find myself saying to younger people "Don't get old, it sucks!"

Foadle

Have you built a fully furnished dolls house for a neighbourhood child?  Or may a fully kitted race track?....Just a suggestion ;)
I get boredom.  I don't believe any of us were ever intended to be idol and so if we don't have something meaningful to do it does become boring very quickly.

JohnDB

Patella Femoral issues. Excessive wear on one side of the patella groove on my femur.

When I climb stairs or ladders my patella bangs into my femur so loudly it sounds like two bones being used to start a rhthym for a band.

And as an electrician I climb stairs and ladders all day long.

They have shot it full of steroids...and that has taken out much of the swelling. Now they want to put some silicone in it. (Injections)

The cartilage is heavily pitted.

If this doesn't work... surgery is next.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

JohnDB

Quote from: Foadle on July 15, 2020, 04:50:00 amHave you built a fully furnished dolls house for a neighbourhood child?  Or may a fully kitted race track?....Just a suggestion ;)
I get boredom.  I don't believe any of us were ever intended to be idol and so if we don't have something meaningful to do it does become boring very quickly.
A fully furnished dolls house has crossed my mind. I've got the nieces...

And not a race track but a train has also been kicking in my head. But again...these are hobbies.

I build buildings and make them functional for industry.
Last thing I built was a fan factory...they were going to build factory sized fans. Before that I was renovating a hospital... before that I built an office complex...and before that a door manufacturing process.

(A set of upscale apartment homes were in there somewhere)
But you get the idea.

Dolls houses and leather tool bags are expensive. $400+ for each one. Just like my dining room table.

I'm accustomed to a very high level of activity.
If you lived here in Nashville you could be a recipient of some of the thousands of cookies and thousands of candies I make from scratch at Christmas. (Only three months before I begin to work on that) or attend one of the gingerbread house parties where I bake and glue together blank gingerbread houses and let the kids cover them with frosting and candy.

We keep them somewhat secret because I am somewhat limited in how much I can produce... albeit its a lot of work for just about anybody. But suffice it to say that we build gingerbread subdivisions.

And then there's the gourmet dinner for the kids parents to go with. (I make that too)

Then throughout the year I usually do a gourmet dinner with various members of my Sunday School class...as my evenings permit. It usually focuses on something like home made Ice cream or paella or pot roast. Just a casual thing that includes the kids. I finish that in their kitchen. The intimate setting allows us to get to know the others better than we otherwise would.

All that on top of slowly changing the skyline in Nashville. (I've lit a few signs on the buildings) and training and teaching the next generation of electricians.

Now...
Nothing except for a few household things. Covid has me trapped.

I'm slowly dying...
I don't have enough to do now.

I've got a trip planned today to seek some advice on how to accomplish my tool bag. Tools and equipment and materials too.
If I can make it happen...it will involve hundreds of hours of hand stitching. My other one that I made took three weeks to make. I've been using it for three years now. Everyone in the industry recognizes it. It is unique and different than most but perfectly functional for me. Now I'm needing one for my power tools and extra bits of tools. (Socket set, Allen wrenches, knockout kit, hole saws, and impact set)

I've had a glimpse of the future...I'm not exactly liking what I am seeing.

I might only get to work for a very limited time. I've got 8 years until retirement. I hope my knees and ankles hold up for it. Because I just can't do this sitting around thing.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

Foadle

I was in no way trying to imply that you don't do anything.  I was trying to get you to think outside the box (which it appears you have been doing). 

The key point I was making is found in the last sentence: I don't believe any of us were intended to be idle.

Even Adam and Eve were given something to do when God created them; so to have in a sense idleness thrust upon us is really not healthy.

flaglady

Quote from: JohnDB on July 15, 2020, 07:14:51 amPatella Femoral issues. Excessive wear on one side of the patella groove on my femur.
Sounds like that needs surgery. That shouldn't happen after a TKR. Have you sort specialist advice?

JohnDB

I've been to two different orthopedic doctors.

I'm hoping that the silicone injections work and I can get back to work.

If not... well I'm going to have to try and get some sort of desk job...they won't pay as well as I'm accustomed to earning but it will be something.

Preferably not in customer service. I don't like people that much.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady

July 19, 2020, 04:43:52 pm #8 Last Edit: July 19, 2020, 05:04:38 pm by flaglady
I can promise you that silicone injections won't work, not at all. What you need is a patellar grove surgery to create a proper track for the patella to ride in and a patella button if you don't already have one. Either that or reconstruction of the ligaments - see image - that keep the patella in place.

Please don't let that doctor inject your knee with silicone. It sounds to me more than likely he doesn't have a real clue how to deal with your problem and what he is proposing will likely cause more harm than good.

MPFL

JohnDB

I seen the MRI...
My patella is sitting off to one side. There is a lot of wear and damage to the cartilage in the groove my kneecap rides in.

It sits crooked. And there's a flap in there as well. So much that it sounds like a drumstick hitting that empty block when walking up the stairs or ladders. Which is how my femur became bruised begin with. (You can hear it across the room...it's loud)

So some silicone in there will smooth out the rough spots. (Nothing is growing back at this late in life)

Might need to cut some tendons to even things out too.

But with some orthodics in my shoes, tape, and exercises to strengthen particular muscle groups I got a chance.

It's not perfect yet but it hurts a lot less.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady

Yes, I expect you have seen the MRI. But I'd still urge you NOT to have an injection of silicone. It won't answer the problem. I stand by what I said in my previous post.

I'd validate my advice by telling you that I worked in orthopaedic theatres (OR) all my life and know as much about TKR as most surgeons do.  For many, many years I ran an orthopaedic forum called BoneSmart.

JohnDB

In what way will it cause harm?
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady

I don't think I said it would cause harm as such but it won't resolve your problem and might even make things worse.

JohnDB

Quote from: flaglady on July 24, 2020, 05:47:52 pmI don't think I said it would cause harm as such but it won't resolve your problem and might even make things worse.

Since it is not contra-indicated and can possibly help (or at least postpone) surgery for years it's not a completely risky procedure.

All procedures contains some risk. Some are more substantial than others. The silicone injections are relatively low vx potential gain.

So... going to go ahead.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady

Quote from: JohnDB on July 25, 2020, 02:15:21 pmSince it is not contra-indicated and can possibly help (or at least postpone) surgery for years it's not a completely risky procedure.
There are many minor procedures that are not "contra-indicated" per se but that doesn't mean they are a good or trustworthy thing to do.


Quote from: JohnDB on July 25, 2020, 02:15:21 pmThe silicone injections are relatively low vx potential gain.
Don't know what you mean by a "vx potential" gain. I just know it's not something I'd want myself nor would recommend.

JohnDB

There's no damage from the rather inert silicone injections. They will provide lubrication to the joint and smooth out the rough operation of this. That's the intention and purpose of the injection.

Which is exactly what I need at the moment. It sounds like a Glock box when I'm using it now.
And it will postpone the debilitating surgery of knee replacement surgery for years possibly.

The Prednisone injection was the riskiest injection by far as it can destroy bruised bone leaving nothing in it's wake to heal.

But the silicone is rather inert and provides the lubrication needed.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady


JohnDB

Quote from: flaglady on August 06, 2020, 03:14:39 pmAre you a chemist?

Almost...lol

I'm a recovered chef and Electrician...

Both trades require lots of understanding of chemistry and chemical interactions.


For example...

People love aluminum siding in certain situations. Usually it is used laminating sheetrock.
Now if rainwater comes into contact with it...
It is now what is commonly known as a battery that will interfere with speakers and other signal dependant devices.
To avoid such things some kind of vapor barrier is needed (like silicone) and grounded conduit for the low voltage wiring as all current carries a magnetic charge. (Intended currents or not)

There's a lot of chemistry and physics knowledge needed as an electrician.

Then as a chef I had to understand a lot about what pots I could and not cook in and what the limits of copper is in the kitchen...

Plus all the leavening agents and how they work. (Sodium aluminum sulfate, bicarbonate soda, and etc) as well as how to relax or develop various proteins...acids role in foods...how flavors are either fat soluble or water soluble...
And then are the emulsions...water in fat or is it fat in water? There are two kinds.

So...
Yeah...I'm kinda a novice chemist in some ways.
I even know something about volatile chemistry...not that I practice it but I definitely try to avoid those situations. 
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

JohnDB

And as a side note...

I've gotten the third injection of the stuff on Tuesday of last week...

My knee is definitely feeling better between the inserts in my shoes and the injections...no pain except for the atrophy from avoiding using it.

It's still a little stiff but I can handle that a lot easier than the feeling of a cattle prod on my knee every time I use it.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.