Started by Pete, July 23, 2018, 05:48:20 pm
Quote from: jiminpa on July 29, 2018, 05:31:46 pmOn the basic subject of is patriotism idolatry, I think that it can be, just like food or anything else can be an idol. We can see in the Bible that God loves and favors the nation of Israel, but we also see that many Jews in the Bible relied on their nationalist pride in place of actually worshiping God. The Pharisees proudly proclaimed their ancestry from Abraham, and then conspired to murder God in the flesh. In contemporary terms patriotism in balance can lead to the willingness to stand between your fellow countrymen and those who would harm them, and out of balance can lead to isolationism or open hostility toward other nations, and placing one's nation above God.
Quote from: jiminpa on July 29, 2018, 05:31:46 pmAs far as kneeling for the National Anthem, I don't like it, but I can't say that it should be illegal. I do agree with Bryan that the NFL has a right as an employer to set and enforce a policy about it.
Quote from: jiminpa on July 29, 2018, 05:31:46 pmCloser to home for us Pete, I am absolutely disgusted with what the Steelers and that weasel Tomlin did to Villanueva. You don't compel one who was special forces not to honor the flag.
Quote from: jiminpa on July 29, 2018, 05:31:46 pmTo him it is not only dishonoring the flag, but the constitution and those who have defended it.
Quote from: jiminpa on July 29, 2018, 05:31:46 pmThen to make him feel like he owed Coach Cliche or anyone else an apology for being the only man of conscience left in the organization is without justification.
Quote from: jiminpa on July 29, 2018, 05:31:46 pmI honestly doubt the sincerity of the vast majority of the millionaire crybabies on the NFL sidelines making a gesture that has zero potential to resolve anything, but serious potential to incite tension and hatred, and I think that is the real intent in the first place.
Quote from: flaglady on July 31, 2018, 07:01:31 pm"What about the mere presence of a religious symbol at someone's desk"We had a big issue about this one time when I was an OR manager. It was not permitted to wear neck chains of any sort when scrubbed up because it chafed the neck and caused a shower of skin scales to be shed on to the wound. All the English staff committed to the rule but what scuppered it was a Muslim doctor who refused point blank to remove his religious necklace. Nothing I said or did changed things and pretty soon, all the staff were wearing them again too. But there was nothing I could do about it.
Quote from: flaglady on August 02, 2018, 07:10:02 pmInterestingly we are having such a 'discussion' on BoneSmart because a member has an avatar using the logo from Deadpool and a NZ moderator took exception and wanted it deleted. It had also been made into a kind of advert for Glock. I'm easy but she's really in a bate about it. So I chickened out and left it to my US co-admin to deal with. (She's a gunowner!) We discussed it and have decided we can't bar it for advertising or weapons because it's not in the rules!
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