Started by Bryan, December 19, 2017, 12:11:51 pm
Quote from: flaglady on December 20, 2017, 07:23:56 pmBeing still in the middle of watching a TV mini series called "King David" this is curiously pertinent for me. Last night's episode ended with the death of King Saul who had done almost everything imaginable to defy the Lord who had anointed him King of Israel. This was obviously a fictionalised account but the producer is known to be a Godly man and did his best to be true to Biblical facts.What I'm getting at is how this man, who once walked with God was able to defy each and every requirement the Lord had laid down for His people and even defied the anointing of David as the next king. Having watched that and then reread Samuel I and II, I was astounded at how he could have turned against God as he did. There was a man who indubitably exceeded the limit of God's grace. A scary story.
Quote from: Optimax on December 20, 2017, 10:33:07 amNotice the qualifications required for a person to "fall away".Heb 6:4-54 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,KJVMany are qualified with the first four.Very, very few have tasted of the powers of the world to come.What are those powers? We might make a guess or two. However the only ones who know those powers are the ones who have tasted (experienced) them.
Quote from: Bryaneven if they had been in his grace, or once he bestows his favor do they remain capable of receiving it for their lifetime?
Quote from: jiminpa on December 20, 2017, 08:02:20 pmBut I think that healing, and God moving outside of the laws of nature are the powers of the world to come, and visions, and prophecy, and sometimes even the "small" interventions in our lives. Anyone baptized in the Spirit should have tasted of those things, IMHO.
Quote from: flaglady on December 21, 2017, 02:10:21 pmWhat about the thief on the cross? Jesus forgave him
Quote from: Bryan on December 26, 2017, 11:49:22 amBut was he ever "in God's grace" before that moment? That is what I am asking. I would say no he wasn't because grace came through the cross which would have been impossible before Jesus died.
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