Started by DiscipleHeLovesToo, October 05, 2014, 09:59:13 am
Quote from: Hisgirl on October 26, 2014, 11:25:46 pmI just signed onto your site. I have a couple of questions for my husband and hope to get on there soon. Looking forward to seeing how you handle that place.
Quote from: DiscipleHeLovesToo on October 28, 2014, 08:06:29 pmbut isn't every true christian a preacher to those they interact with? can you preach the gospel without sacrificing things and family?
Quoteit occurred to me that maybe He said this to point out an indicator of the working of the hundredfold harvest; a way to discern whether prosperity is a result of intersecting with God's already-given blessings through a heart's desire to be led by Him versus prosperity that comes as a result of following the world's wisdom of prospering through getting rather than giving.
Quote from: Katana on January 01, 2015, 07:29:27 am The correct answer is: both views are incorrect. It is not a matter of you "giving" in order to get, nor getting in order to give, but God working in you "both to will and to do of His good pleasure" (Php 2:13), and giving you all blessings which you can never deserve, no matter how well you "intersect" with God, because "to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt" (Rom 4:4). The Gospel is not about what you do for Christ, but what Christ has already done for you and continues to do within you. I find this quote from Augustine quite perfect in explaining what I mean:"Can you say, 'We will first walk in His righteousness, and will observe His judgments, and will act in a worthy way, so that He will give His grace to us'? But what good would you evil people do? And how would you do those good things, unless you were yourselves good? But Who causes people to be good? Only He Who said, 'And I will visit them to make them good,' and, 'I will put my Spirit within you, and will cause you to walk in my righteousness, and to observe my judgments, and do them'(Ezek.36:27). Are you asleep? Can't you hear Him saying, 'I will cause you to walk, I will make you to observe,' lastly,'I will make you to do'? Really, are you still puffing yourselves up? We walk, true enough, and we observe, and we do; but it is God Who He makes us to walk, to observe, to do. This is the grace of God making us good; this is His mercy going before us." (Augustine - Against Two Letters of the Pelagians, 4:15)The "performance" centered Gospel will never leave you in peace because you will always be second guessing your own position in God's grace and plan. You will always be questioning whether you are suffering because of persecution, or suffering because you are not doing what God wants you to do. Years ago, I remember, I was totally ignorant of such things. My life was all about moving into periods of peace and back into periods of despair because of my own sins and guilt. I did not know that, though events were terrible, though my life was filled with setbacks and embarrassing failures, that "all things work together unto good for them who love God, who are the called according to His purpose (Somewhere in Romans chapter 9). Now if "all things work together unto good" for the elect, then this explains both our persecution and our suffering for our mistakes, as both come from the same God who "begun a good work in you [and] will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ" (Php 1:6). You do well if you examine yourself and your actions when hardtimes come, for God always tries His people or chastises them, but do so from a position of strength (that is, a position from faith), knowing that you are secure in God's grace, and if there is a place where God wants you to be, He Himself will move you to that place through His omnipotence. You will not miss an opportunity God ordained for you, nor fall off a cliff due to your own weaknesses. Even your weakness God can turn to good for you. This does not mean to be idle, of course, for we should chase after our salvation "with fear and trembling," but it does mean to be at peace, because we have our fear and trembling only because it is God who works it within us.
Quoteare you saying that we should be in fear and trembling of God as reborn believers?
Quoteare you saying that God is on control of us by default? that all that happens to us is God's will?... are you saying that God uses bad experiences to teach us?
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