Started by Yitzchak, February 10, 2014, 05:53:37 pm
QuoteMat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Quote from: Optimax on February 19, 2014, 08:49:31 amThe only scriptural evidence of a baptism of fire .1 Cor 3:12-1512 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.KJV
QuoteLuk 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
QuoteAct 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Quote from: Stratguy on February 19, 2014, 07:00:12 amAt the risk of upsetting anyone...if Rodney Howard Browne or any of the other Benny Hinn's, Creflo Dollars or Kenneth Copelands of this world were in my town I'd be calling in a bomb scare to keep as many gullible people as possible away from them.Demon-possessed angels of light every one of them...and that's being kind. But check it out for yourself...look at the fruit of their ministry....look at the medically proven and documented 'miracles'...look at the TEACHING and weigh it against scripture....look at the way they conduct their finances....look at the background & roots of their theological traditions e.g. where did they get their beliefs from?...and once you've done this you will be very clear on whether you want to give them any time at all.How many thousands of people have you had the opportunity to share Christ with? When you want to keep people away from the word of God spoken by whomever you disagree with, do you ask the Lord what He thinks about their finances? The fruit of their ministry should be measured in the eternities they effect not in the $$ you see.... its fine if you give you $$ to Bill Gates for a computer or to someone or go to a movie and give money to one of those unholy hollywood folks but OMG don't give any to Benny Hinn. Who has actually brought the gospel to hundreds of thousands. Hey, its not my thing, TBN sometimes leaves me shaking my head, I can't watch Dollar or White she makes me crazy.... I like Copeland somewhat but Hinn bothers me too BUT when I took it to prayer... the Lord spoke. "What is that to you"!!! and He wasn't kidding. The roots of their theological teachings are more grounded in scripture than John MacArthur's.Paul said, the gospel is preached bc for all kinds of reasons, sometimes they enjoyed his suffering, sometimes for selfish ambition, YET he praised God bc the gospel was preached.....
Quote from: Stratguy on February 20, 2014, 05:19:47 amI had a whole lot of youtube links and articles etc, but then realise that I'm getting into one of those 'this the truth NO THAT'S THE TRUTH' arguments which won't do us any good.My original reply is a belief that I hold high, but I expressed it likely without much grace, so apologies - I need to learn to build up instead of fire those awesome 'bullets of truth'.
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