August 14, 2020, 06:21:31 pm

It's in the Works

Started by JohnDB, August 10, 2020, 11:25:35 am

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JohnDB

The good news we have been waiting for is on its way...

A cure for Covid-19.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200721005042/en/Selva-Therapeutics-Announces-3-Million-Series-Financing

Supplanter (my wife) told me about how Vanderbilt University had done some of the research for this company on this drug.

It's in clinical trials.
It works.

Normalcy is on the horizon.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

Bryan

Now the question becomes is it wise to get the vaccine?  A good portion would say no
All glory to him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by shedding his blood for us.  He has made us a Kingdom of priests for God his Father. All glory and power to him forever and ever! Amen.

JohnDB

Quote from: Bryan on August 11, 2020, 07:10:24 amNow the question becomes is it wise to get the vaccine?  A good portion would say no
Historically vaccines for Corona class viruses don't work and usually make the recipients more sick when they contract the virus they are supposed to protect against.

So...
No...I'm not going to take that double shot and subsequent ones.

(It's a series of painful injections)
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady

Quote from: JohnDB on August 10, 2020, 11:25:35 amIt's in clinical trials.
It works.

Respectfully, I would dispute those two phrases. Being in clinical trials is not a precursor to the success or failure of a drug or vaccine.  In days way back when Jenner developed the small pox vaccine, life was a lot simpler. Such is not the case now. Rules and protocols multiply and for good reasons. Some of the 'vaccines' that have been developed thus far are proving themselves to be either ineffective or harmful. I'm not saying this will be the case with this new treatment. Perhaps it will be fantastically successful but then again, perhaps it won't. So all I am saying is, be cautious and be wary and watchful. This vaccine involves mega-bucks and where there is a lot of money, manufacturers are not to be trusted.

JohnDB

Oh I agree...
The vaccines they are developing are scarier to me than an antiviral.
A vaccine is designed for a long lasting impression on your body...the effects can last decades. And if it's a bad effect?

An antiviral is very different. Short term effect and impression.

This one was made from an existing medicine's model.
It's just a variation of a theme.

Only way I can describe it is that many of your antibiotics are variations of penicillin. This antiviral is similar to an existing antiviral but is a lot more effective and less expensive.

Min/max and duration dosing is primarily what they are looking for.

It's coming....I'm hoping for a very merry Christmas.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.

flaglady

Quote from: JohnDB on August 13, 2020, 10:45:11 amThis one was made from an existing medicine's model.
It's just a variation of a theme.
Most 'new' drugs are but it doesn't make them any safer.

I remember engaging with my mother's GP some years ago because he had covertly got her to sign up as a participant in one of his research studies. She didn't want it and he wouldn't answer her questions in plain English - she was 80 at the time and not particularly knowledgeable about things like this so she rang me for advice. It also appeared that he had had her sign the bottom of a page while he covered up the rest.

So I went to see her GP and was horrified to see in his office shelves of files for such studies. Of course, I knew he was raking in the money for these 'studies'. Shameful. It seemed he had tried to convince my mother that she needed this new drug because her condition (slightly raised blood pressure) had worsened. He tried hard to convince me that it was 'only' because the company had changed one component, protocol required the study was done again. But what he didn't know is that I was a senior administrative nurse. He backed down and took her off the study.

I'm sure not all doctors are so unscrupulous but I bet an awful lot of them are!

JohnDB

Clinical trials...

No one is going to take this antiviral unless they know...

Then there's at least two screenings by those giving out the medicine and a double screening by the drug company.

These double screening are for trying to ensure the patient can tolerate the medicine...if anything these days they skew the numbers towards approval...but not by two separate entities.

Then there's the blizzard of paperwork and monitoring.

Then there's the whole double blind thing... nobody really knows who is or is not getting the meds.
I wanna die like grandpa, peacefully and in his sleep. Not like the passengers in his car...they were all screaming and panicking.