Started by franky67, August 26, 2011, 04:48:25 pm
Quote from: JTM³ on August 27, 2011, 02:34:39 pmI really don't give a crap about theological wranglings.Jesus healed, Jesus IS the express image of God, and Jesus is the SAME yesterday, today and forever.Good enough for me.
Quote from: Renee on August 27, 2011, 05:08:16 pmI'm gonna say this again cepten this time I know I won't be made fun of and yelled.Here's my thoughts on healing. Jesus took the stripes upon His back for my healing. My body says I have heart probs, spina bifida, arthritis and severe asthma. But I know without a shadow of doubt that God said I am healed. His words are true. I AM HEALED. I'm just waiting for my body to catch up on that fact.
Quote from: pastorzzub on August 27, 2011, 04:08:31 pmWould rep you if I was near a computer, optimax
Quote from: franky67 on August 27, 2011, 04:07:40 pmI did not post here to wrangle, because I am pretty sure most of us here believe Jesus did it all, I posted to help me equip myself to answer the naysayers, and there many out there.Pastorzzubs gave me a great one, "if healing isn't in the atonement, then where is it?"
Quote from: JTM³ on August 27, 2011, 06:18:32 pmlol Z a cell phone IS a computer, but I know what you mean. I see. I also didn't mean to imply that you came to wrangle, tho I could have said that better I guess.I simply don't care about the technicalities. Its just evident to me.I just want to have a reply ready when I'm asked , 2 Tim 4:2 says be ready to defend the faith.
Quote from: franky67 on August 27, 2011, 07:31:02 pm
Quote from: franky67 on August 26, 2011, 04:48:25 pmI have had more than a few jousting matches on the subject of PHIA over on CF, and about couple years ago, I began to consider the fact that if healing isn't included in the work of the cross, then in the New Testament (New Covenant), there is no teaching from God as to how Christians receive healing, at least I can't find it.Now some Christians today don't believe there is ANY healing at all , so this doesn't apply to them, but it applies to those who DO believe in praying for healing today, yet say healing is not included in the atonement.Have any of you had thoughts along these lines?
Quote from: JTM³ on September 01, 2011, 07:00:13 pmHey Franky,Wasn't trying to be rude or anything.I guess what I meant to say is that if Jesus healed back then, and Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, then that's good enough for me.Anything more just seems to unnecessarily over complicate matters.
Quote from: franky67 on September 02, 2011, 04:30:33 pmNo offense taken at all, and I am happy to accept God's gifts, myself, the driving force behind my post is to make it simple for others to receive, because they perish because of lack of knowledge.So matters get complicated when God's people suffer sickness and pain, because of not discerning the Lord's Body rightly.I just believe we can convince those who aren't sure about healing, if we can just get them to see the truth, faith comes by hearing.
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