Started by Rachel Faith, June 17, 2011, 10:29:02 pm
Quote from: Renee on June 28, 2011, 01:42:30 pmSunshyne you don't sound foolish at all. And that is my point He has not changed. According to alot that I am reading and not from you is claiming that He has changed. Such as claiming that the OT is not a true picture of God. and claiming that the OT is obsolete. All that is wrong and not at all biblical that is in a round about way claiming that God has changed when in reality some are looking at Him through their flesh tinted glasses and trying explain away His complexities. The God of the OT and the God of the NT is the same God.
Quote from: Sarah on June 28, 2011, 02:17:00 pmThe difference between the OT and the NT is Jesus. OT = God sees us as we are, NT = God sees us through the Blood of Christ. With that one life everything changed. There are so many thing in the OT that bring revelation and deeper understanding. No contest. How we see and and are seen has changed. I don't know any Christian, any family or friends, that thinks that the OT is obsolete. That would be limiting Him and I don't think that's the case here.
Quote from: jiminpa on June 28, 2011, 03:30:13 pmBut Jesus has always been.
Quote from: jiminpa on June 28, 2011, 03:30:13 pmMuch of what Jesus taught was to correct a distorted view of what was the only scripture written at the time. Jesus did not violate any of the law, but the pharisees thought he did, because they had added so much "oral Torah" to it that the true scriptures were meaningless to them.
Quote from: jiminpa on June 28, 2011, 03:30:13 pmEverything Jesus taught was already in the OT. If Paul was so opposed to the OT why, after his conversion, did he take a nazarite vow, and escort others to the temple to fulfill theirs?
Quote from: Renee on June 28, 2011, 12:47:57 pmDavid prayed take not your Holy Spirit from me because of His limited understanding at that time.
Quote from: Renee on June 29, 2011, 10:34:54 amI'm not talken bout keeping old covenant law I'm talken not throwing the Old Testament out the door. There are things in the OT still yet to come not only if one would look they will Jesus in it. A lot of wonderful teachings come from the OT. Let me see in the words of Pete throwing out the OT, NOT THE LAW is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater
Quote from: Pete on June 29, 2011, 10:43:51 amPlease allow me to repeat; NO ONE is suggesting that we should throw out the OT. To continue to suggest such a thing is to ignore what people have actually said.It's clear from the posts in this thread that each of us have different interpretations and understandings of the OT and its application to our lives today, but it is not at all conducive to the discussion in this thread to continue to suggest that people are saying that we want to toss out the OT when NO ONE is suggesting anything of the sort.
Quote from: jiminpa on June 29, 2011, 10:53:11 amIs there a practical difference between saying that it doesn't apply to us, and throwing it out? I'm not being augmentative. I'm just clarifying why I agree with Renee, that "throwing out the OT" is an accurate description.
Quote from: jiminpa on June 29, 2011, 10:53:11 amIs this thread officially derailed now?
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