Started by Neph, April 27, 2010, 09:49:51 pm
Quote from: DianeL on April 28, 2010, 08:31:28 amGrowing up Roman Catholic, my aunt used to say often "This is my cross I have to carry" because her marriage wasn't going well. I didn't understand it. She had a martyrdom syndrome.Later on, I thought it was persecution by insults and mocking because we have freedom of religion here. In China, carrying your cross - persecution could mean your life.So, outwardly the 'carry your cross' could seem to have various cause and effects ; But I have learned that inwardly when I crucify parts of my old self - perhaps critical thinking, judgemental accusations, apathy, etc. I replace these with love, hope, longsuffering, etc.. it's begins the process of renewing my mind. Sometimes I have to keep crucifiying some these behaviours (my old self) all day long Neph, good topic!
Quote from: Foadle on April 27, 2010, 10:32:21 pmI agree with you in part Neph only in that I believe that this is only a portion of it. Another portion is baring the insults and slander of others who do not agree with us.Matt 10:25 It is enough for the disciples that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?This part of it can also been seen in the previous verse of the scripture you have givenLuke 9:22 Saying, The Son of man mujst suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scripbes and be slain, and be raised the third day.Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man wil come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:24 For whosoever will save his live shall lose it: but whosoeever will lose his life for my sake, the szame shall save it.So the verse after is definately about being totally sold out for him and dying to self as you have indicated but it is doing that through the torments and persecutions that others will direct towards us which I believe complicates things much more.
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