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Not worthy - Really? - Or is it pride?

Started by sharonl, June 05, 2009, 08:52:13 am

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sharonl

I have read several threads about pride and not being worthy.

At first I thought - that is crazy - how could feeling not worthy be considered pride?

Well today as I was reading Pete's thread 'God where are you' - it hit me as to how it can be pride.

I can stand firm for awhile then little by little weaken in standing for a certain answer to a prayer - wondering why can't I shout it out that I heard from God and He showed me what to watch for - why do I keep it to myself -

Here is why - What if it doesn't come to pass, I will look stupid. I've always told myself I didn't do that because if it doesn't come to pass it will make God look bad. I don't think God needs my help to make Him look good -

When I face reality - I don't want to look bad and be considered religious in stating something is going to heppen when God has shown it to me plainly.

Boiled down to Pride.
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Pete

Good thoughts.

I would also add that GOD calls us worthy.

When we say we are not, we are in essence saying that He is wrong.

This is one area of false humility that is incredibly damaging to our faith and our relationship with Him, and is another form of pride.

We tend to think of pride as thinking highly of ourselves, which can be true.  We can think more highly of ourselves than we ought to;

Romans 12:3 (AMP)
For by the grace (unmerited favor of God) given to me I warn everyone among you not to estimate and think of himself more highly than he ought [not to have an exaggerated opinion of his own importance]...


Most of us understand this kind of pride with no problem.  But the verse goes on to say this;

...but to rate his ability with sober judgment, each according to the degree of faith apportioned by God to him.

IOW, God has called us worthy and given us each abilities.  When we call ourselves not worthy, we are not using sober judgment according to the degree of faith God has given us, and we actually end up thinking too little of ourselves in accordance to what God has done for us.

This is a far more subtle way for pride to sneak in, but it is just as, if not moreso, prevalent in the church today.  Each of us needs to find that balance where we understand who we are in Christ without thinking more highly of ourselves than we should.

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sharonl

Pete and Dana - much wisdom there - I needed to hear both of those.
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DianeL

I've been thinking about this.

First, we're told God is Almighty and Powerful ... we shrink a little... then we're told He is Pure... we shrink a little more... then we're told He is Holy ... we shrink again ..

I can understand how we can become uneasy and feeling unworthy to approach Him, but

then picture Jesus, approaching us and saying "C'mon, let's go together", "I'm with you in this", then

our confidence to boldly approach the throne changes.

Of course, I prefer to walk behind Jesus :)
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A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
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By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another. John 13

Truth

There is a middle ground between not being prideful and not feeling worthy.

Jesus has made us worthy by His blood, He made us righteous by his righteousness. We are new creatures in Christ . He doesn't make unworthy new creatures. So we can come boldly to Him and not feel like we are not good enough. We will never be 'good enough' it's not about what WE do it's about what HE DID. And we just receive it gladly.

Hebrews 10:19
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus

It keeps people from recieving what he wants to do for us, and actually things He has ALREADY done for us. But its like salvation, we have to recieve them.

Love is not arrogant, but neither should we 'brag' of our humility.  ;)

The Lord does give us confidence when we know who we are in Christ, but others may see that as pride. Really it's not, because it isn't any thing we did. We give Him all the glory for everything.





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Quote from: Truth on June 05, 2009, 08:34:47 pm
There is a middle ground between not being prideful and not feeling worthy.

Jesus has made us worthy by His blood, He made us righteous by his righteousness. We are new creatures in Christ . He doesn't make unworthy new creatures. So we can come boldly to Him and not feel like we are not good enough. We will never be 'good enough' it's not about what WE do it's about what HE DID. And we just receive it gladly.

Hebrews 10:19
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus

It keeps people from recieving what he wants to do for us, and actually things He has ALREADY done for us. But its like salvation, we have to recieve them.

Love is not arrogant, but neither should we 'brag' of our humility.  ;)

The Lord does give us confidence when we know who we are in Christ, but others may see that as pride. Really it's not, because it isn't any thing we did. We give Him all the glory for everything.




I don't think I could've said it any better than you did!

There was a weight lifted off of me when I realized the truth of what you said. That it's not ME who has to be righteous or good enough.
Jesus did that for me. He took my sin and made me righteous.
That is actually very humbling for me but I rejoice in the truth of it.
Sometimes it may come across as arrogance or pride.
But it's not. It's thankfulness that Jesus did it all for me!!!
I never felt normal or worthy as a child except when I did something good...like making good grades or always 'doing the right thing'. My parents didn't make me feel that way but it was how I thought of myself because of some things that happened to me.

I finally found my true worth in Jesus. And it is truly because of who He made me to be and who I am in Him. It's not me.

I still want to live my life to please Him. But because I'm thankful for what Jesus did and not because "I" have to always be good.

Truth

It's great how the Lord lifts us up and carries our burdens. So we don't have to. Too many times we don't leave them with Him but take them up again.

sharonl

I think my problems are yo-yo's - I give them to God and find peace about them - then start worrying and pull them back down - only to have to surrender them again.
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Truth

We've all done that. But the more often we determine not to, the less often it happens, until one day we have conquerored that habit.

DianeL

I so agree Truth.

When we don't see results right away, sometimes we tend to take it back. Learning to wait has been the hardest for me.
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A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
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By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another. John 13

sharonl

Yes that is a big one for me also - waiting.

It's like I pray for patience Lord, but I want it now. :shrug:
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