Started by Pete, January 13, 2009, 10:49:44 pm
Quote from: bill16652 on January 14, 2009, 04:17:47 pmSorry, that is how it seemed to me and maybe I am still smarting from CF. Like you, I didnt go back there for a long time and I do pray that peace reigns over there. It is not a place I want to be most of the time.
Quote from: Pete on January 14, 2009, 04:27:57 pmThere were a number of people at CF who tried to make the case that WoF people were the problem, and tried to use the fact that now that WoF people were fewer in number as proof. Of course, the opposite would have been true also, had the non/anti-WoF people left, because the opposition would have been gone either way.
Quote[/SIZE] I believe the problem was with agenda-driven people. Some people had a very strong anti-WoF agenda. Some people had a very strong pro-WoF agenda. Some people had a very politically driven agenda. Some people had a race-driven agenda. Basically, anyone who was there for the purpose of "pushing" ANY agenda was, IMO, the biggest problem.
Quote[/SIZE]For the most part, I agree with you. I also have no problem with disagreements or debate. But unfortunately, most of the "debates" there were not debates at all. When you have people who are trying to TELL you what you believe, and you tell them they're wrong, and they continue to persist in saying the same thing over and over again after being corrected, you could have a more productive conversation with your wall.
Quote from: flaglady on January 15, 2009, 04:02:54 pmOh my! did he actually depart in the end!
Quote from: bill16652 on January 14, 2009, 03:12:36 pmI think that it is a shame that WOF are attributed with all the problems when the two biggest problems to that SFPC forum are still there spreading what I would consider doubt and unbelief but I say let them have it as long as others are not persauded by it.
Quote from: flaglady on January 16, 2009, 10:05:09 amHey! I tried to keep the flag flying too, y'know! In fact was my going to bat over one of those situations up in A/SA that was cited in my being removed from staff last summer.
Quote from: bill16652 on January 16, 2009, 11:20:52 amThis is exactly why I can never support CF again. You are one of the fairest nicest people I have met over there and if they removed you not only was it their loss but also shows a lot ablout some character there as well.
Quote from: goofy on January 16, 2009, 09:05:11 amEssentially it is useless to report the posts of certain people now, because they will always get an automatic pass from staff. things have changed since Pete left, and not for the good.
Quote from: flaglady on January 16, 2009, 01:36:29 pmHow could I not thank you two after that!
Quote from: Neph on January 16, 2009, 04:14:49 pmAlpine, I think you and the current mods over there are doing a great job!
Quote from: Alpine on January 16, 2009, 04:17:39 pmThanks! We try to be fair in a no win / unpopular job.
Quote from: goofy on January 16, 2009, 06:32:38 pmas always all we can do is speak from what we know. and i can affirm that all the above people have spoken truthfully within the scope of their level of knowledge. and we all know how many different levels of knowledge there are at CF. if you think of it like the TV game "Survivor," it's a bit easier to understand. not saying that's either right or wrong, but it is within that framework that staff works.and yes, some of them work to the glory of God.
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