Quote from: Hisgirl on February 04, 2019, 05:03:41 pmHey David,
How is your new job going? I know starting in a new place can feel really weird and (for me) intimidating. Lots of new people, new lingo, new schedules, new rules.

But it's also very exciting and a new adventure.

I'm curious, what's the dress code over there in typical businesses? Over here, business casual has taken on a whole new meaning and work places have gotten so casual, people are wearing jeans and sneakers and all sorts. There's a place here in my city where a friend works, and they have margarita machines on Friday.

New job is hectic, insane and mad. In my first month I've been away on business for 2 weeks all over the UK.
Can't say much about it as I've "secret" level government clearance....but it's very pressured. It's great to be earning money again though and getting some of the arrears on bills paid.
Surprisingly I carry a bible when I fly....even tried praying but nothing happens. "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign". Despite knowing that I asked for a sign. Even got on my knees in the hotel room and prayed....nothing.
What does that mean? No idea. But I was disappointed.

Quote from: Bryan on March 01, 2019, 04:46:49 pmSure but if a person believes in a moment and is saved, do they then have the right to stop believing but retain salvation?

Read those scriptures again. Count the "if's" and " unless" and "or if's"

Quote from: Optimax on March 01, 2019, 11:25:23 amIf you are correct then God lied because scripture says;

Rom 10:9-11
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
KJV

Sure but if a person believes in a moment and is saved, do they then have the right to stop believing but retain salvation?

Quote from: Bryan on March 01, 2019, 08:54:44 amThis is actually the point of my question.  I suppose it depends on believing when salvation happens.  If it happens at the point of "conversion" (in most peoples estimation that would be saying the sinners prayer) then I suppose yes it is easy to be saved.

I tend to lean more towards salvation as not being received in this life.  Thus if we stumble/fall away there is no salvation and in this case salvation is not easy.  Sure, believing in Jesus seems easy enough, but that is not always the case.  Trials of faith can be very arduous and taxing.

If you are correct then God lied because scripture says;

Rom 10:9-11
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
KJV

Quote from: Optimax on February 28, 2019, 02:23:12 pmIt is easy to be saved if:

1. You can believe in your innermost being(heart) that God raised Jesus from the dead.

2. You can confess with your mouth that Jesus is your Lord (and mean it).

It is not as easy to grow spiritually once saved.

This is actually the point of my question.  I suppose it depends on believing when salvation happens.  If it happens at the point of "conversion" (in most peoples estimation that would be saying the sinners prayer) then I suppose yes it is easy to be saved.

I tend to lean more towards salvation as not being received in this life.  Thus if we stumble/fall away there is no salvation and in this case salvation is not easy.  Sure, believing in Jesus seems easy enough, but that is not always the case.  Trials of faith can be very arduous and taxing.

It is easy to be saved if:

1. You can believe in your innermost being(heart) that God raised Jesus from the dead.

2. You can confess with your mouth that Jesus is your Lord (and mean it).

It is not as easy to grow spiritually once saved.

I saw a pamphlet today that stated "Lucky for you, it is easy to be saved.". But it got me thinking, is it really easy for an individual to be saved?

Sure, Jesus said his yoke is easy and his burden is light, but he also talked about selling everything for the pearl of great price.

Is it right or even truthful for us to tell people salvation is easy if it really isnt?

Do you actually have a date yet? What all will they be doing?