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General Discussion / Re: What's really disappointin...
Last post by Bryan - July 24, 2020, 08:15:01 pm
Luckily for me God doesnt care about my IQ or my lack of recognition.  Farewell
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General Discussion / What's really disappointing
Last post by JakeELee - July 24, 2020, 06:24:21 pm
Hi folks,

I won't likely post here because from the genuine questions I believe I have asked, the replies are really disappointing at a basic level.

There is no attempt at logical reasoning, or an attempt to address points. It seems to boil down to either direct questions about the Christian faith are taken personally and ignored or else given some one liner smart mouth response as if that is a genuine reply

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I honestly did come here to ask you why Christians had reasons to believe, but sadly I believe my time has been wasted.

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So I wish you all the best in what you believe.

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(PS - do you always think that seekers will come quietly, and friendly and on your terms?

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Thanks, and all the best.
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General Discussion / Re: Retirement Sucks
Last post by flaglady - July 24, 2020, 05:47:52 pm
I don't think I said it would cause harm as such but it won't resolve your problem and might even make things worse.
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General Discussion / Re: So on the topic of hell
Last post by JakeELee - July 24, 2020, 03:07:08 pm
Quote from: jiminpa on July 22, 2020, 01:33:14 pmSimple. God offered a way to eternity with Him. If someone doesn't want that eternity with God they can have that eternity without God, and eternity without God and His attributes is Hell.

That sounds wonderful Jiminpa, but Oh so cold.

I'd appreciate if you could answer within the context that I asked the original question - if you had a child that treated you terribly and went their own way, would you just forgive them anyway because it's the "human, kind, decent and loving thing to do" or would you build a torture chamber in your basement and burn them alive forever, with no chance of escape?

The simple answer would be to say that "I am seeing things through human eyes and not God's" - absolutely correct.

But in my human experience the unconditional forgiveness that I would and do offer to my child is so far morally superior above that of the God of the Bible that it beggars belief that you could supply such a cold answer.

I am honestly chilled to the bone by your reply. It's not at all "simple".

And honestly - as someone here who is asking questions - I have to ask if following the Christian "God" for what I presume are many years leads you to this sort of abhorrent viewpoint that you write off the majority of the human race into a furnace far worse than that of Auschwitz then I am honestly lost for words.

In your answer I see no compassion, no love, just one statement that damns most of humanity.

I am sorry if I sound so harsh but if this is what following "Christ" leads to, then I am delighted that I am an atheist and going to the hell that you seem so quick to point me towards.

If I have misunderstood you or your views then please take the time to compassionately and reasonably explain if that's even possible for you - if a further reply will lead to the same tone then let's park it.

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General Discussion / Re: Fun story.
Last post by jiminpa - July 23, 2020, 11:02:13 pm
It's still one of my favorite places, but I don't have anywhere to put a canoe in near there.
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General Discussion / Re: Retirement Sucks
Last post by JohnDB - July 23, 2020, 08:03:39 pm
In what way will it cause harm?
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General Discussion / Re: Retirement Sucks
Last post by flaglady - July 23, 2020, 01:18:00 pm
Yes, I expect you have seen the MRI. But I'd still urge you NOT to have an injection of silicone. It won't answer the problem. I stand by what I said in my previous post.

I'd validate my advice by telling you that I worked in orthopaedic theatres (OR) all my life and know as much about TKR as most surgeons do.  For many, many years I ran an orthopaedic forum called BoneSmart.
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General Discussion / Re: Fun story.
Last post by flaglady - July 23, 2020, 01:09:35 pm
What gorgeous pictures!
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General Discussion / Re: Fun story.
Last post by jiminpa - July 22, 2020, 09:41:32 pm
I found someone else's photo of the area on the internet. This photo is taken from the old railroad bed, now maintained as a bike/hiking trail. It is the downstream side of the island. The photographer is on the same side as our camp. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qaEtji0wgi4/VDnuD9ubgoI/AAAAAAAAJkY/Sf6NjkzwY3A/s1600/IMG_0691.JPG. For copyright and credit purposes the link to the page is https://coalandcoke.blogspot.com/2014/10/allegheny-river-trail-emlenton-to.html. The far side is the riffles.
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General Discussion / Re: So on the topic of hell
Last post by jiminpa - July 22, 2020, 01:33:14 pm
Simple. God offered a way to eternity with Him. If someone doesn't want that eternity with God they can have that eternity without God, and eternity without God and His attributes is Hell.
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