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General Discussion / Re: It's in the Works
Last post by flaglady - August 13, 2020, 03:34:19 pm
Quote from: JohnDB on August 13, 2020, 10:45:11 amThis one was made from an existing medicine's model.
It's just a variation of a theme.
Most 'new' drugs are but it doesn't make them any safer.

I remember engaging with my mother's GP some years ago because he had covertly got her to sign up as a participant in one of his research studies. She didn't want it and he wouldn't answer her questions in plain English - she was 80 at the time and not particularly knowledgeable about things like this so she rang me for advice. It also appeared that he had had her sign the bottom of a page while he covered up the rest.

So I went to see her GP and was horrified to see in his office shelves of files for such studies. Of course, I knew he was raking in the money for these 'studies'. Shameful. It seemed he had tried to convince my mother that she needed this new drug because her condition (slightly raised blood pressure) had worsened. He tried hard to convince me that it was 'only' because the company had changed one component, protocol required the study was done again. But what he didn't know is that I was a senior administrative nurse. He backed down and took her off the study.

I'm sure not all doctors are so unscrupulous but I bet an awful lot of them are!
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General Discussion / Re: It's in the Works
Last post by JohnDB - August 13, 2020, 10:45:11 am
Oh I agree...
The vaccines they are developing are scarier to me than an antiviral.
A vaccine is designed for a long lasting impression on your body...the effects can last decades. And if it's a bad effect?

An antiviral is very different. Short term effect and impression.

This one was made from an existing medicine's model.
It's just a variation of a theme.

Only way I can describe it is that many of your antibiotics are variations of penicillin. This antiviral is similar to an existing antiviral but is a lot more effective and less expensive.

Min/max and duration dosing is primarily what they are looking for.

It's coming....I'm hoping for a very merry Christmas.
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General Discussion / Re: It's in the Works
Last post by flaglady - August 12, 2020, 04:23:00 pm
Quote from: JohnDB on August 10, 2020, 11:25:35 amIt's in clinical trials.
It works.

Respectfully, I would dispute those two phrases. Being in clinical trials is not a precursor to the success or failure of a drug or vaccine.  In days way back when Jenner developed the small pox vaccine, life was a lot simpler. Such is not the case now. Rules and protocols multiply and for good reasons. Some of the 'vaccines' that have been developed thus far are proving themselves to be either ineffective or harmful. I'm not saying this will be the case with this new treatment. Perhaps it will be fantastically successful but then again, perhaps it won't. So all I am saying is, be cautious and be wary and watchful. This vaccine involves mega-bucks and where there is a lot of money, manufacturers are not to be trusted.
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General Discussion / Re: It's in the Works
Last post by JohnDB - August 11, 2020, 09:54:19 am
Quote from: Bryan on August 11, 2020, 07:10:24 amNow the question becomes is it wise to get the vaccine?  A good portion would say no
Historically vaccines for Corona class viruses don't work and usually make the recipients more sick when they contract the virus they are supposed to protect against.

So...
No...I'm not going to take that double shot and subsequent ones.

(It's a series of painful injections)
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General Discussion / Re: It's in the Works
Last post by Bryan - August 11, 2020, 07:10:24 am
Now the question becomes is it wise to get the vaccine?  A good portion would say no
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General Discussion / It's in the Works
Last post by JohnDB - August 10, 2020, 11:25:35 am
The good news we have been waiting for is on its way...

A cure for Covid-19.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200721005042/en/Selva-Therapeutics-Announces-3-Million-Series-Financing

Supplanter (my wife) told me about how Vanderbilt University had done some of the research for this company on this drug.

It's in clinical trials.
It works.

Normalcy is on the horizon.
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General Discussion / Re: Retirement Sucks
Last post by JohnDB - August 07, 2020, 05:55:17 pm
And as a side note...

I've gotten the third injection of the stuff on Tuesday of last week...

My knee is definitely feeling better between the inserts in my shoes and the injections...no pain except for the atrophy from avoiding using it.

It's still a little stiff but I can handle that a lot easier than the feeling of a cattle prod on my knee every time I use it.
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General Discussion / Re: Retirement Sucks
Last post by JohnDB - August 07, 2020, 05:42:07 pm
Quote from: flaglady on August 06, 2020, 03:14:39 pmAre you a chemist?

Almost...lol

I'm a recovered chef and Electrician...

Both trades require lots of understanding of chemistry and chemical interactions.


For example...

People love aluminum siding in certain situations. Usually it is used laminating sheetrock.
Now if rainwater comes into contact with it...
It is now what is commonly known as a battery that will interfere with speakers and other signal dependant devices.
To avoid such things some kind of vapor barrier is needed (like silicone) and grounded conduit for the low voltage wiring as all current carries a magnetic charge. (Intended currents or not)

There's a lot of chemistry and physics knowledge needed as an electrician.

Then as a chef I had to understand a lot about what pots I could and not cook in and what the limits of copper is in the kitchen...

Plus all the leavening agents and how they work. (Sodium aluminum sulfate, bicarbonate soda, and etc) as well as how to relax or develop various proteins...acids role in foods...how flavors are either fat soluble or water soluble...
And then are the emulsions...water in fat or is it fat in water? There are two kinds.

So...
Yeah...I'm kinda a novice chemist in some ways.
I even know something about volatile chemistry...not that I practice it but I definitely try to avoid those situations. 
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General Discussion / Re: Retirement Sucks
Last post by flaglady - August 06, 2020, 03:14:39 pm
Are you a chemist?
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General Discussion / Re: Christianity's greatest fa...
Last post by JohnDB - August 06, 2020, 10:49:24 am
I see the problem as mixing Christianity with Politics...

Always is the root of the problem.

What you are talking about is "winds of doctrine" being in conflict with true Christian principles and conflating the issues with current political problems.

During the rennaisance there was a religious upheaval as scriptures were made available to the common man without true hermeneutics being applied as the General Church was unwilling and unprepared to adequately teach these things. (As it would show that the Emporor's clothes were absent)

The Dark Ages were dark from hearing God's Word...as well as the understanding of what the scriptures meant. The documents were lost, destroyed, and left uncopied. (No printing presses)


The truth that Jesus was against politics goes unheard regularly.
(It was the means of his crucifixion)

Today we see that the Republicans are more in favor of acting like there is no pandemic and the lives lost weren't valuable to begin with. But Christian principles demand that every life is precious and not to be risked.
The Democrats wish to keep everyone in quarantine in order to exert more control over individuals lives and how the Government says they should behave.

Neither side is right.

I'm on God's side on this. I'm staying out of it.


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