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General Discussion / Re: Why are we here?
Last post by Hisgirl - March 20, 2019, 09:01:06 am
Whatever happened, I missed it. Was at Disney world with my hubby, visiting an elderly relative whom I love. (the relative wasn't at disney world but what if she WAS? What if disney world had an old folks home where they could hear the parades and watch the children and eat ice cream??) 

Anyway, everyone has a really hard day every now and then and needs to let off steam and sometimes we get the brunt of it. That's okay. Makes my heart hurt though. 

Whomever it was, and I don't want anybody responding to that, but I'd like to sit down with a cup of coffee and talk about good things and say 'hey..its okay'  

Life sure can be hard and it feels overwhelming sometimes. Sometimes I find myself pondering how more folks love me on the other side, than on this side and I long for that grand reunion. But...here I am and we're as close to hell as we're ever gonna be, so we manage.

And sometimes we don't manage well.

So if someone reads this please know that if you ever wanna chat, vent, yell, whatever...I'm happy to listen and I probably have chocolate cake in the freezer (I realize you aren't here to share so I'll have to eat it) 

So Pete...yeah...we're here to be ourselves. The good, the bad, the ugly. Thank you for the venue. And thank God for grace. Lots and lots of grace.
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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by Bryan - March 18, 2019, 11:45:19 pm
Quote from: Hisgirl on March 17, 2019, 09:54:06 amTo Balance:  Actually, Billy Graham wasn't a Cessationist, as many believe.

He wrote a book called The Holy Spirit.

Here are just a few quotes from him and the accompanying page numbers:

From Billy Graham's own words:
Page 215 - To summarize...there is no doubt in my mind there is a gift of healing.  There needs to be caution and discernment, though, because there are frauds and charlatans.

Page 217 - And today when the gospel is proclaimed on the frontiers of the Christian faith that approximate the first century situation, miracles still sometimes accompany the advance of the gospel.  As indicated by both prophets Hosea and Joel, as we approach the end of the age we may expect miracles to increase.

Page 218 - ...as we approach the end of the age, I believe we will see a dramatic recurrence of signs and wonders which will demonstrate the power of God to a skeptical world.  Just as the powers of satan are being unleashed with greater intensity, so I believe God will allow signs and wonders to be performed.

Page 234 - Indeed, tongues is a gift of the Spirit.  When those who speak in tongues misuse it so that it becomes divisive, it indicates a lack of love.  And those who forbid it do the church a disservice because they appear to contradict the teaching of the apostle Paul.

Page 235 - The sign gifts - healings, miracles and tongues probably attracted as much attention in 1st century.  They also caused confusion and abuses as today.  Nevertheless, God the Holy Spirit gave them to some within church to be used for His glory.  They must never be exploited for selfish reasons nor must they ever become sources of either division or pride.  They should be used strictly in accordance with principles God set forth in the Bible.  If God chooses to give these gifts to some today, pray they will be used for the common good and furtherance of the Kingdom



Interesting indeed
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General Discussion / Re: Winter UGH!
Last post by Bryan - March 18, 2019, 11:44:18 pm
Im sorry if I misunderstood your comment Dave.  On a positive note, its getting warmer!
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General Discussion / Re: Why are we here?
Last post by jiminpa - March 18, 2019, 02:58:11 pm
Yes, we can often "leave" a little better than when we "came in." Even with the exchanges with Dave, I was able to examine some things about myself. He did make some good points, interspersed with some not so good ones and some serious rage. May he find peace in his life, and we know that there is only one true source for that.
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General Discussion / Why are we here?
Last post by Pete - March 18, 2019, 10:26:10 am
I'm sure some of you saw the incident that transpired here over the weekend, so I'd like to take a moment to address it head-on.

For those of you that missed it, there were a number of posts that attacked our small membership group here, accusing the group of exclusivity and only wanting to pat each other on the back. Had the posts not been laden with personal insults and explicit language, I would have left them in place so you could have read them yourself.

It should be no secret to anyone here that I believe very strongly in demonstrating love and grace to everyone, especially to those that most others would prefer to write off.  While it is very easy for us to become offended and upset when someone accuses us, we must not forget that our instruction from Jesus Christ is to Love one another as He Loved us. How did Jesus love? He laid down His very life for our redemption. He took insults, torment and physical abuse, for me. For you. And when I remember that, anything anyone might say that is "offensive" to me pales in comparison.

With all of that in mind, I do not believe that walking in Love means that you must act as a doormat or as someone else's personal punching bag. Loving someone does not mean that you must allow someone to say or act however they please while you just sit there and take it. That is the main reason why those posts have been removed.

So that brings me to my OP. Why are we here? Contrary to the accusation over the weekend, I don't believe that we're here to just sit around patting each other on the back in full agreement with one another. I believe that we are here to challenge one another, to grow together, to learn together. But those things can only happen in an environment of mutual respect and humility.

I don't get to post here as often as I would like, but I do read everything that is posted. I believe that despite the fact that we're down to 3-4 people, the topics raised and discussed are interesting, thought-provoking and meaningful. And while I have not always joined into the conversations, you've all made me think about the things I believe and why. That is why I'm here. That is why HGO is here. And anyone who is on board with being challenged and discussing things in a polite, resepctful manner, even if we don't agree on everything, is more than welcome to join in the discussions.

We are absolutely not perfect. We all have various struggles. We're all human. But Love makes allowances. So for me, HGO is yet another place to practice walking in Love towards others. I don't always get it right, but I'm thankful for God's grace and I try to show the same grace towards others that I want God to show to me.

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General Discussion / Re: Is salvation easy?
Last post by Hisgirl - March 17, 2019, 10:12:10 am
Years ago, I came across a document which I deem STUNNING.

It is called 'The Very Serious Matter of Imputed Righteousness"

Here is the link, enjoy!

http://www.grebeweb.com/linden/justification/imputed_righteousness.htm
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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by Hisgirl - March 17, 2019, 10:06:35 am
David,
 
I have also known folks who attributed every inconvenience to a demon. The speaker doesn't work? It's the devil! No...no, actually it isn't plugged in.  You are sick? Maybe it's because you eat junk food and constantly abuse your body with no sleep and no exercise.

Stuff like that.

I'm happy to hear you are looking for a sign.

I would ask though, regarding Jesus and his message, if it were true, would you want to know?

I think that's the whole point of asking God to prove it, is that right?

There seems to be a disconnect though. I mean...if I work so hard to prove God didn't exist, then I start saying 'prove to me you're real' and he doesn't answer, could it be because he's saying 'How can I answer? You said I didn't exist!"   

Maybe, instead of saying 'prove it!' ask for chances to show love to others. I believe that's the whole point anyway. And in showing love to others, giving away a bit of yourself, that river sorta washes away the gunk and you begin to experience this freeing wonderful feeling of happiness.

You might answer back that you are perfectly happy and fine and don't really care if there is or there isn't.

But I suppose in the end, we'll all find out if we were right in our beliefs.

I, for one, would rather err on the side of it being untrue and I spent my life walking around believing someone paid a price for me and it wasn't true, than believing it wasn't true and it turns out it was. Seems like one has a much bigger risk.

But we all get to choose the path we walk and how we handle what the days bring. You seem like a nice guy David. And very intelligent. I hope you find peace in whatever you choose. 

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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by Hisgirl - March 17, 2019, 09:54:06 am
To Balance:  Actually, Billy Graham wasn't a Cessationist, as many believe.

He wrote a book called The Holy Spirit.

Here are just a few quotes from him and the accompanying page numbers:

From Billy Graham's own words: 
Page 215 - To summarize...there is no doubt in my mind there is a gift of healing.  There needs to be caution and discernment, though, because there are frauds and charlatans.

Page 217 - And today when the gospel is proclaimed on the frontiers of the Christian faith that approximate the first century situation, miracles still sometimes accompany the advance of the gospel.  As indicated by both prophets Hosea and Joel, as we approach the end of the age we may expect miracles to increase.

Page 218 - ...as we approach the end of the age, I believe we will see a dramatic recurrence of signs and wonders which will demonstrate the power of God to a skeptical world.  Just as the powers of satan are being unleashed with greater intensity, so I believe God will allow signs and wonders to be performed.

Page 234 - Indeed, tongues is a gift of the Spirit.  When those who speak in tongues misuse it so that it becomes divisive, it indicates a lack of love.  And those who forbid it do the church a disservice because they appear to contradict the teaching of the apostle Paul.

Page 235 - The sign gifts - healings, miracles and tongues probably attracted as much attention in 1st century.  They also caused confusion and abuses as today.  Nevertheless, God the Holy Spirit gave them to some within church to be used for His glory.  They must never be exploited for selfish reasons nor must they ever become sources of either division or pride.  They should be used strictly in accordance with principles God set forth in the Bible.  If God chooses to give these gifts to some today, pray they will be used for the common good and furtherance of the Kingdom

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General Discussion / Re: Winter UGH!
Last post by Hisgirl - March 17, 2019, 09:45:02 am
Where I live, our seasons go as follows, starting in January:

Winter

A little bit of spring

One day of snow

Spring

More winter

Windy spring

Summer

Last bit of winter

Hot spring

Tornado spring

Summer

Really hot summer

More hot summer

A touch of Fall

College Football

More summer

Fall tease

More summer

Fall 

Winter

More summer





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General Discussion / Re: Winter UGH!
Last post by DavidMcClean - March 15, 2019, 04:02:20 pm
On a side note, when I post it puts all my sentences together like a block of text...some way to change this without having to re-edit? Or does everyone else have this problem?
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