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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by Bryan - September 04, 2019, 07:51:19 pm
Quote from: Pete on September 03, 2019, 09:21:20 amI think, generally speaking, people tend to pick and choose what they are comfortable with in the Bible. Of course, most people wouldn't readily admit that, because I don't think most people are even aware of it. But make no mistake that our preconceived ideas, our culture, our biases, our blind spots, our personalities, our experiences and our agendas color what we believe.

Acts is where the disciples waited for and received the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in new tongues. Let's be honest here; tongues freaks a lot of people out. But rather than admit that people will say, "Oh, that's just a historical account" so they can convince themselves that they do believe everything in the Bible, but not have to apply all of it.

I think we're all guilty of this to some degree. I am ever aware of my biases and preconceived ideas. It's why I've moved away from saying things like, "The Bible says..." and now am careful to say, "I believe the Bible says..." instead. It's not that I don't believe the Bible is true and accurate. I absolutely do. But I know that my understanding of it is not complete.

O0

Pete you are full of wisdom friend.
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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by Bryan - September 04, 2019, 07:44:59 pm
Quote from: jiminpa on September 03, 2019, 02:45:20 pmOn a similar note I went to a church last week, (I finally got Sundays off), the service was good, and I ran into 3 different friends who go there, but I checked out the church library and it had "Strange Fire" available for check out, so I won't be going back.

Was it a Charismatic/Pentecostal church?  Seems like an odd book to have inthe library if so.
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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by jiminpa - September 03, 2019, 03:19:49 pm
Quote from: Pete on September 03, 2019, 09:21:20 amI think, generally speaking, people tend to pick and choose what they are comfortable with in the Bible. Of course, most people wouldn't readily admit that, because I don't think most people are even aware of it. But make no mistake that our preconceived ideas, our culture, our biases, our blind spots, our personalities, our experiences and our agendas color what we believe.

Acts is where the disciples waited for and received the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in new tongues. Let's be honest here; tongues freaks a lot of people out. But rather than admit that people will say, "Oh, that's just a historical account" so they can convince themselves that they do believe everything in the Bible, but not have to apply all of it.

I think we're all guilty of this to some degree. I am ever aware of my biases and preconceived ideas. It's why I've moved away from saying things like, "The Bible says..." and now am careful to say, "I believe the Bible says..." instead. It's not that I don't believe the Bible is true and accurate. I absolutely do. But I know that my understanding of it is not complete.

O0
I don't think it's just tongues, Pete. I find that most churches don't want to have to deal with the results of giving the Holy Spirit free reign among them. so they form convenient doctrines that exclude Him.

I hope that I'm at least a little better by admitting that I am currently struggling to give God free reign in my life. Letting God have control can be quite frightening, and I am far too fear driven right now. But I am working on it.
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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by jiminpa - September 03, 2019, 02:45:20 pm
On a similar note I went to a church last week, (I finally got Sundays off), the service was good, and I ran into 3 different friends who go there, but I checked out the church library and it had "Strange Fire" available for check out, so I won't be going back.
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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by jiminpa - September 03, 2019, 02:07:19 pm
Quote from: Pete on September 03, 2019, 09:21:20 amI think, generally speaking, people tend to pick and choose what they are comfortable with in the Bible. Of course, most people wouldn't readily admit that, because I don't think most people are even aware of it. But make no mistake that our preconceived ideas, our culture, our biases, our blind spots, our personalities, our experiences and our agendas color what we believe.

Acts is where the disciples waited for and received the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in new tongues. Let's be honest here; tongues freaks a lot of people out. But rather than admit that people will say, "Oh, that's just a historical account" so they can convince themselves that they do believe everything in the Bible, but not have to apply all of it.

I think we're all guilty of this to some degree. I am ever aware of my biases and preconceived ideas. It's why I've moved away from saying things like, "The Bible says..." and now am careful to say, "I believe the Bible says..." instead. It's not that I don't believe the Bible is true and accurate. I absolutely do. But I know that my understanding of it is not complete.

O0
That's why I participate in discussion forums. The problem is that it has gotten quite clear with issues relating to the gifts of the Spirit that there are people who just refuse to see what is very explicitly in the scriptures. Those people no longer challenge me to examine my reading of the scriptures, because I just can't see them as anything but wrong, and most of them intentionally so. That makes me sad.
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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by Pete - September 03, 2019, 09:21:20 am
I think, generally speaking, people tend to pick and choose what they are comfortable with in the Bible. Of course, most people wouldn't readily admit that, because I don't think most people are even aware of it. But make no mistake that our preconceived ideas, our culture, our biases, our blind spots, our personalities, our experiences and our agendas color what we believe.

Acts is where the disciples waited for and received the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in new tongues. Let's be honest here; tongues freaks a lot of people out. But rather than admit that people will say, "Oh, that's just a historical account" so they can convince themselves that they do believe everything in the Bible, but not have to apply all of it.

I think we're all guilty of this to some degree. I am ever aware of my biases and preconceived ideas. It's why I've moved away from saying things like, "The Bible says..." and now am careful to say, "I believe the Bible says..." instead. It's not that I don't believe the Bible is true and accurate. I absolutely do. But I know that my understanding of it is not complete.

O0
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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by Bryan - September 03, 2019, 08:46:52 am
It's ok, I was just curious really if anyone else had heard of this and if so, if they knew why.
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General Discussion / Re: Why have I heard Acts is n...
Last post by flaglady - September 03, 2019, 05:34:52 am
Hmm - can't say I've ever heard of this opinion before, Bryan. But I have heard similar applied to the entire Bible and generally, it's dismissed as not being particularly valid. I prefer to take the Bible as valid from cover to cover but then I'm not really very scholarly when it comes to discussions like this.
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General Discussion / Why have I heard Acts is not f...
Last post by Bryan - August 31, 2019, 01:10:13 pm
So simple question really.  We believe all 66 books of the Bible were inspired by the Holy Spirit and as such every word therein is true and accurate.

Yet, when it comes to the book of Acts I have heard people state, "Acts is just a church history book, not meant for doctrine."

Now I know the scope and tone is different from the Pastoral Epistles and really the Gospels, (although if we are going to be technical the Gospels are also "church" history books) but truly why is it that some or most state Acts is not for doctrine and thus the book is dismissed for such matters.
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General Discussion / Re: What is your Walk by the S...
Last post by flaglady - August 22, 2019, 07:45:33 am
My dear friends, you've bucked me up no-end today! Thank you for your words of wisdom.
Bless you, bless you, bless you!
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