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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by flaglady - February 07, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
It was a nice chat, Dana. Too bad we had such a struggle to get a half decent connection!!
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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by Hisgirl - February 06, 2019, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: flaglady on February 06, 2019, 06:19:16 PMNope - no PM in either site.

I've tried phoning you 2-3 times but no answer - what's amiss? Have you moved?
I'll bet you're calling our old number. I'll PM the new one.
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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by flaglady - February 06, 2019, 06:19:16 PM
Nope - no PM in either site.

I've tried phoning you 2-3 times but no answer - what's amiss? Have you moved?
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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by Hisgirl - February 05, 2019, 08:43:05 PM
Quote from: flaglady on February 04, 2019, 08:22:21 PMDana - you never post to me. Are you someone else using Hisgirl's name?  ???
JO!
Yay! It's you! I actually posted on your bone forum this week! And I also sent you a message either on here or there. I think here! Go see! So good to see you!
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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by flaglady - February 04, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
Dana - you never post to me. Are you someone else using Hisgirl's name?  ???
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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by Hisgirl - February 04, 2019, 05:03:41 PM
Hey David, 
How is your new job going? I know starting in a new place can feel really weird and (for me) intimidating. Lots of new people, new lingo, new schedules, new rules.

But it's also very exciting and a new adventure. 

I'm curious, what's the dress code over there in typical businesses? Over here, business casual has taken on a whole new meaning and work places have gotten so casual, people are wearing jeans and sneakers and all sorts. There's a place here in my city where a friend works, and they have margarita machines on Friday. 

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General Discussion / Re: When preaching interferes ...
Last post by Bryan - February 04, 2019, 11:14:30 AM
There definitely is a right and wrong way to get a point across.  Even if we have a valid argument, if we say it in a certain manner, the message can be lost.

I think what drew people to Jesus wasnt his compromise of truth (obviously) but the way he approached and presented the truth to others.

The woman at the well could easily have been preached at, but instead of "preaching" he taught her.

The woman in adultery is probably the best example, but instead of casting that stone which he could have done, he showed a great example of forgiveness, love, compassion.  Not being harsh or judgemental (usually associated with preachiness).

I could go on.  But it was an important reminder for me, not to pass a judgemental look or word, but use opportunities the Spirit gives me to explain the truth in a way that causes others to listen and think.
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General Discussion / Re: When preaching interferes ...
Last post by Pete - February 04, 2019, 09:11:28 AM
Bryan, many years ago when I was posting regularly at CF God gave me a vision. I could argue toe to toe with the best of them. I knew my scriptures. I was sure I was right and I wanted to make sure everyone else knew it. I convinced myself that I needed to impart my grand wisdom into these people whether they wanted it or not.

So one day when I was posting, I had a vision. It was me. Standing outside a locked door. Screaming and yelling at the door. Pounding on the door. But no one was listening. It was just me yelling at a door. Then God showed me a kinder, gentler version of me. A me that would listen to people. A me that didn't need to "prove my point" or "win" the argument. A me that really cared about people and not just winning an argument. And for that me, people would open the door and I could talk with them. Sure, we might not fully agree, but we could talk and learn from one another.

Love opens doors. And I think what you're saying about "preaching" goes along with that. There's nothing inherently wrong with preaching. In fact, we're instructed to go into all the world and "preach" the gospel. But the negative connotation that goes along with preaching is exactly what you allude to in your OP.  Beating people over the head with scripture is rarely an effective way of teaching or evangelizing.

Of course, I've been accused of compromising what I believe, but nothing could be further than the truth. My core beliefs absolutely have not changed. But the way I present them has. I have learned that it's not my job to make another person believe something. That's the role of the Holy Spirit and He is much better at it than I could ever hope to be. But if we don't Love people first, they won't even be receptive and we're just yelling at a closed door.

To paraphrase one of my favorite sayings, people don't care what you know until they know that you care.

O0
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General Discussion / Re: When preaching interferes ...
Last post by flaglady - February 03, 2019, 02:36:55 PM
I've often been conflicted by this very thing, Bryan. There have been times I've longed to be taught by my elders and betters. The only time that genuinely happened, I think, was in our weekly Bible class which was led by a venerable gentleman, father of our pastor and who had been a pastor for many, many years and was a well loved member of our church. He would give us a biblical passage to study as we left the meeting and the next week, it would be discussed and he would lecture on it. Those meetings were great!

Since I've not been a church member for some years now - mostly due to ill health - I've not been a part of a bible study group and must say I miss it terribly. Your posts here have been a great substitute! God bless you!
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General Discussion / Re: A new thread
Last post by Hisgirl - February 02, 2019, 08:59:26 PM
Hey there David, 

I wanted to say Thanks for sharing. I know that was personal.

You've always been truly welcome here and I, for one, appreciated your sharing. I hope you truly love your job and that days are looking brighter each and every morning.  
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