Quote from: flaglady on March 27, 2020, 06:33:18 pmNOT something to 'trump' about!Yesterday, Mr. Trump apparently finally listened to his health professionals and extended our social distancing guidelines until the end of April, which seems more reasonable. Not that this will all be over by then, but hopefully they can at least begin easing some of those guidelines by early May.
I have a friend in Kansas that I speak to on a fairly regular basis and last week she proudly stated that "We're alright. Apparently we'll be going back to normal in 2-4 weeks time!" I'm sure she must have heard my jaw hit the table but she fobbed me off when I said it would be more like 12 months! And that's the estimate in the UK.
QuoteMr. Trump: And you know, the good ones are very, very expensive. And you know, they'd say, like Governor Cuomo and others that say we want, you know, 30,000 of them, 30,000. All right. Think of this. You know, you go to hospitals, they'll have one in a hospital. And now, all of a sudden everybody's asking for these vast numbers. So -- but we have now companies stepping up and they're building them. They're doing the masks. We've already delivered millions and millions of masks. But remember, we're really a second line of attack. The first line of attack is supposed to be the hospitals and the local government and the states, the states themselves. I mean, we people like Governor Inslee. He should be doing more. He shouldn't be relying on the federal government. Governor Inslee, that's the state of Washington. He was a failed presidential candidate. And you know, he's always complaining. And your governor of Michigan, I mean, she's not stepping up. I don't know if she knows what's going on. But all she does is sit there and blame the Federal government. She doesn't get it done. And we send her a lot. Now she wants a declaration of emergency. And you know, we'll have to make a decision on that. But Michigan is a very important state. I love the people of Michigan what they do. I'm the one -- I'm bringing back many, many car factories into Michigan. And she is a new governor. And it's not been pleasant. And you know, you look around and you see what's going on. And by the way, most governors have been fantastic. I have to tell you. Most of them have been -- whether it's Democrat or Republican but we've had a trouble -- we've really had some trouble with the state of Washington. The governor, he's a -- and he ran for president, didn't exactly do well. He got zero. And we've had a big problem with the young, a woman governor from, you know who I'm talking about, from Michigan. So we can't, you know, we don't like to see the complaints. And I am getting along with Governor Cuomo. I think that a lot of things are being said that are more. I don't think that certain things will materialize. And you know a lot -- a lot of equipment's being asked for that I don't think they'll need but I'm building.
QuoteYamiche Alcindor: Thank you, Mr. President. I have two questions. The first is you've said repeatedly that you think that some of the equipment that governors are requesting they don't actually need. You said New York might not need 30,000-
QuoteMr. Trump: I didn't say that.
You said it on Sean Hannity's Fox News. You said that you might-
Why don't you people act, let me ask you-
You said some states-
Why don't you act in a little more positive? It's always trying to get you-
My question to you is-
Get you, get you, and you know what? That's why nobody trusts the media anymore.
My question to you is how is that going to impact-
That's why people...
Excuse me, you didn't hear me, that's why you used to work for The Times and now you work for somebody else. Look, let me tell you something, be nice. Don't be-
Mr. President, my question is ...
... don't be threatening, be nice. Go ahead.
My question is, how is that going to impact how you fill these orders for ventilators, or for mass? Your views that-
It's not going to impact.
It's not going to impact you at all?
We're producing tremendous numbers of ventilators, we're doing a great job on it, Mike Pence, our vice president, just headed up the task force, which has been incredible the job they've done, we have everybody in the White House working on it, everybody in the country is working on this in one way or the other, the fact is we've done a great job of delivering. You've seen the biggest people in the business. I mean, there's nobody even close to this group of people, we had a meeting at three o'clock, it lasted for a long time, it was a great meeting with the generals, and with everybody else, and they have done a fantastic job. I'm just saying this, if they're holding ... Let me give you one example, we sent thousands of generators to New York, they were put into a warehouse, a New York warehouse, that happened to be located, interestingly, in Edison, New Jersey, they were given to New York, and we then went to other places also giving thousands of ventilators. The people in New York never distributed the generators. We said, "Why didn't you distribute them?" Now, you have to understand, they have New York people working in those warehouses, they knew they had them, so we said, "Why didn't you distribute them?" I hope they've distributed them now, but maybe they didn't need them so badly, but just so you know, we're all, you, me, everybody, we're all on the same team. When journalists get up, and you're a journalist, a fine journalist, when journalists get up-
I was quoting you directly from Sean Hannity.
... and ask questions that are so threatening, we're all on the same team.
I was quoting you directly from your interview with Sean Hannity.
Take a look at my interview, what I want to do is if there is something wrong, we have to get to the bottom of it. When I hear facemasks go from 10,000 to 300,000 and they constantly need more, and the biggest man in the business is shocked, he knows all about the virus by the way, he's not surprised by that, he knows all about it, he shouldn't be surprised, he should say, "Well, they're standard because this is really a very tough disease. This is really a very tough virus to handle." Okay, please go ahead-
Quote from: Pete on March 26, 2020, 10:49:51 amWe are on track to surpass Italy in the number of infections in the next 2-3 daysNOT something to 'trump' about!
Quote from: Pete on March 26, 2020, 10:49:51 amMr. Trump has said he'd like to open the country, or at least parts of the country, by EasterI have a friend in Kansas that I speak to on a fairly regular basis and last week she proudly stated that "We're alright. Apparently we'll be going back to normal in 2-4 weeks time!" I'm sure she must have heard my jaw hit the table but she fobbed me off when I said it would be more like 12 months! And that's the estimate in the UK.
QuoteA question for you, Mr. President and Dr. Fauci, if we could. This would -- looking at this idea of an Easter timeline -- and I know that's probably flexible -- what are the metrics by which you will make the decision as to whether you can say, "Yes, we can open up this area of the country" or "No, we can't open up that area." I mean, will you be looking at disease numbers? Will you be looking at possible containment, isolation? What are you (inaudible)?
QuoteI think we'll be looking at a lot of things. We'll also be looking at very large portions of our country. And I will be guided very much by Dr. Fauci and by Deborah and by some of the other professionals that work with both of you.
And we're going to see what -- what will be, but that would certainly be -- I think that's a goal that perhaps can happen, or at least for a very large portion of our country.
Quote from: Pete on March 05, 2020, 09:11:42 pmMr. Trump has said, and I quote, "Then I have an article two, where I have the right to do whatever I want as President".W-w-w-w-what??? That is heinous! Outrageous! No president, prime minister or any other person in power should be able to do that. Not in a democratic society. Because then it becomes a dictatorship - does it not?
Quote from: Balance on March 23, 2020, 02:00:13 pmI understand that the President is not a politician, he is bold, crass and at times demeaning. (just like a 71yr old billionaire business man).Hey Balance, long time no "see". It's good to hear from you again.
But what beliefs in the Republican Party have changed?
They were Pro life before - still are
They were strong 2nd amendment before - still are
They were strong borders - still are.
What within the party has changed?
Quote from: Pete on March 04, 2020, 08:07:10 pmIt's not so much that I'm protesting anything as it is a personal choice for me. I cannot in good conscious call myself a Republican. I am a conservative-leaning independent. The Republican party is no longer representative of my beliefs and values, and it's not like the Republican party is going to select a different candidate.