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General Discussion / Re: Hel-looo-ooo!
Last post by jiminpa - February 22, 2019, 02:02:22 PM
Still here, just saying a little less for now.
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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by jiminpa - February 22, 2019, 01:50:08 PM
I don't know that cessationism alone makes one ineligible. Rallying against the Holy Spirit, that, I think, makes one ineligible. If Billy Graham ever spoke blasphemies against God's Spirit I am unaware of it. Cessationism does make one a poor teacher, and in my opinion a poor Christian. Billy Graham wasn't a teacher. He was an evangelist. He did what he was called to do, but he limited himself by his doctrine.
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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by Bryan - February 21, 2019, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Balance on February 21, 2019, 02:56:13 PMIs Billy Graham in heaven?  He was a cessationist.

Thats a good but ultimately pointless question.  Pointless because none of us know.  We can assume he is, because why wouldnt he be?  But none of us know, thats actually the point of my OP.

The NT warns of false doctrine, and wolves in sheeps clothing.  I know BG had quite a rep for his crusades and such, but what was the ultimate end?
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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by Balance - February 21, 2019, 02:56:13 PM
Is Billy Graham in heaven?  He was a cessationist.
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General Discussion / Re: Hel-looo-ooo!
Last post by Balance - February 21, 2019, 02:53:38 PM
Hello!  How are you?
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General Discussion / Hel-looo-ooo!
Last post by flaglady - February 20, 2019, 08:26:21 PM
Anyone home?
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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by jiminpa - February 14, 2019, 10:40:15 AM
Yeah Jo, I wish I thought more like you. I just have a hard time seeing beyond the damage that some theologies are doing to the world and the body of Christ, but I also believe in unity, so I am very conflicted. If it is faith that pleases God, how can we fellowship with unbelief, but if we are to be in unity, how can we not?
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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by flaglady - February 13, 2019, 08:11:16 PM
Oh what a collection of differing ideas to be confronted with!

It's always bothered me to be disparaging about 'other faiths' when who am I to make such decisions? It bothered me on CF when there were certain faiths dispatched to a separate forum entitled "Non-Christian Faiths". After all, who are we to make such declarations? Isn't that the absolute essence of hubris?

I prefer to follow Jesus and I feel comfort and the love of the Father in doing so. I have heard God speak to me when I was still a lost soul but yes, He did speak to me and led me into the path of righteousness for His Name's sake. It's on this steady footpath that I feel my belief is The Way, The Truth and The Life.  Some may call this shaky ground but it doesn't feel like it to me. Even in times of deep depression and uncertainty, I can still feel the certainty of it and have confidence in the Power of His Love.
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General Discussion / Re: Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by jiminpa - February 13, 2019, 10:00:51 AM
That's a good question Bryan. Cessation teaching is active unbelief, and I am convinced that true Calvinism is another gospel and, actually, repackaged fatalism. But what's in the hearts? John MacArthur has gone so far as to hold an anti-Holy Spirit rally, and I believe that everyone who stood on his stage for that is beyond hope, and they are some of the top names, and money, in pop-christianity. I do think that there are those who are just that deceived, and will get to eternity as one passing through fire, but then I'm not so sure that the same thing doesn't apply to me. The problem is that even the sincere ones are still holding up unbelief as religious duty.

It's really starting to bother me again. How can we call ourselves followers of Jesus and then consider it our religious duty to denounce His ministry to the world, and the hurting in the church? The whole mindset is so invasive that those of us actually wanting to believe God are marginalized, and I find myself more mired in religious unbelief than faithfulness.
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General Discussion / Exclusivity in heaven?
Last post by Bryan - February 12, 2019, 01:28:17 PM
So something I was thinking about the other day is probably something none of us know but thought I'd ask anyway.

I was thinking about my thread on here where I was describing and detailing my life and past, and the last one I read was about my childhood church, Grace Baptist, and how they would always teach/preach that their beliefs/doctrines alone were the truth, even compared to other Christian sects.

How likely is it that groups such as that will make it to heaven?

Now Im not doubting their sincerity or passion, but to receive redemption and salvation we must be Jesus right?

Walk in live, not hate.  Be redeemers, not destroyers.  Etc.

How is telling someone they are going to hell unless they conform such living?  Especially that one even declares a living faith in Jesus.

For example, cessationists are usually very guilty of this.  Also those who say you must read only the KJV.

Like I said, probably not something we know for certainty but thought itd be interesting to discuss.
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