Quote from: Optimax on November 09, 2019, 10:18:12 am"Elect" NT:1588 eklektos (ek-lek-tos'); from NT:1586; select; by implication, favorite: KJV - chosen, elect. Strong'sGood to see you posting Optimax. About the only thing I could add to that is what it says in Romans that all creation testifies to God, so that there is no excuse, extending that calling to all, not just those who have heard a human presentation. Yes, evangelism is still as important as ever, since that spoken message is much clearer, and harder to ignore.
Elect, Chosen, Called, Predestinated, Foreknowledge
Different ideas on what "elect/chosen" means. The idea that God chose/elected those who would be saved.
Some think the person had nothing to do with it, had no say in it, it was God's decision. God chose/elected those who would be saved.
This is true. Truth also is in how he chose those who would be saved.
Matt 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. KJV
Matt 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. KJV
Rom 16:13 Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine. KJV
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. KJV
Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; KJV
2 Thess 2:13-14
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
KJV
13 But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
14 He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. NIV
Matt 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. KJV
People are called when they hear the Gospel.
Eph 1:4-5
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, KJV
4 Even before the world was made, God had already chosen us to be his through our union with Christ, so that we would be holy and without fault before him. Because of his love
5 God had already decided that through Jesus Christ he would make us his sons -- this was his pleasure and purpose. TEV
4 In Christ, he chose us before the world was made. He chose us in love to be his holy people--people who could stand before him without any fault.
5 And before the world was made, God decided to make us his own children through Jesus Christ. This was what God wanted, and it pleased him to do it. ETR
4 Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.
5 God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure. NLT
Matt 22:14
14 For many are called, but few are chosen. KJV
You were called when you heard the Gospel. Many hear but do not receive Jesus. Those who receive Jesus are "in Him/Christ", therefore are the chosen/elect.
The chosen/elect are predestined to be sons. Sonship came by salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
His foreknowledge means He knew who would
Quote from: flaglady on October 12, 2019, 11:49:06 amWell, I'm back at last! Had to have my knee redone on the 6th and it was a brute! Surgery took 3½ hours, the surgeon told me and the replacement implants were 3 times longer than the original! This was because the lower part had come loose and was in danger of causing a break in the bone!Thanks for updating us Jo. I'll be praying.
Enough detail, my recovery was awesome in the first 2 weeks but rapidly went down hill thereafter. Not fun! I'm now 6 weeks out, still miserable and haven't been out of the house yet. Only plus side is that my range of movement is terrific. Well at least that's something!
In meantime, my computer took a nose dive and 3-4days of work hasn't resolved the problem so the first thing when I get my freedom back is to get a new computer!
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