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General Category => General Discussion => Deeper Fellowship => Topic started by: sharonl on August 14, 2008, 04:49:23 pm

Title: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: sharonl on August 14, 2008, 04:49:23 pm
When God shows you a warning does he show you with dreams, visions or Words from the Bible?

Maybe this is why I don't get any prophesies - I feel like if God wants me to warn someone of something He will tell me direct and not give me a puzzle to work out.

Some say He gives you enough to make you search to draw you closer - but what if you put the puzzle together wrong.

In the Bible - when God gave a warning didn't he give direct warnings - example of Johna - he told him to go to Nivivea (sp) and warn the King that he would destroy them if they did not turn from their ways and pray -

Maybe I am missing the boat on this one - but people are always telling me that God says this and God says that about other people - and it is always a dream, a vision or just a Word - I am very confused on this issue.

Am I wrong to think that if God wants us to know something that He will not just give you a puzzle.
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: Pete on August 14, 2008, 04:57:01 pm
I believe God will sometimes just give us the answer, but other times, He will give us pieces.  I believe He does this so that we must trust Him.

Too many people try to make a one-size-fits-all God.  They think because they had success with 4-steps to answered prayer, that everyone should.  But that's not how our God works.

If we knew all we needed to know, we would have no need for faith and/or trust.  If there were a "formula" to follow, we'd have no need of God.  We'd only need to learn the formula.

But faith is not a formula, and the way God does something for me may not be the same way He does it for you.  I believe that is purposeful, so that we seek Him in everything we do.

I think the bottom line is, He loves us, He desires to have a relationship with us, and He wants us to trust Him.
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: Hisgirl on August 14, 2008, 05:00:45 pm
Hmmm....a few of the warnings I have received came this way...

Had a dream about a delta L1011.  Saw it landing, and there was a thunderstorm going on just as it crashed.   Two days later a delta L1011 crashed in Dallas, in a thunderstorm.

Saw a white plane with an orange tail slide off a runway on ice.  A couple of days later a plane looking like that slid off a runway on ice.

I also saw a town square with lots of people running, and dark black clouds billowing up.  Everyone was running and I called out "Father!  Forgive us!"

Had a dream about a tsumnami hitting California.  I saw it from waaaay up.

Was taken over the middle east with Jesus and shown the war and destruction.  911 happened two weeks later.   



So there was generally information, but not specific times/dates. I figure it's enough info to go into intercession.  Gosh what would I do if I had been given a flight number and date??  (http://www.rtechsupport.com/forum/Smileys/default/th_scifD36.gif)

Have you had an inkling of something?
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: sharonl on August 14, 2008, 05:21:37 pm
Quote from: Hisgirl on August 14, 2008, 05:00:45 pm
Hmmm....a few of the warnings I have received came this way...

Had a dream about a delta L1011.  Saw it landing, and there was a thunderstorm going on just as it crashed.   Two days later a delta L1011 crashed in Dallas, in a thunderstorm.

Saw a white plane with an orange tail slide off a runway on ice.  A couple of days later a plane looking like that slid off a runway on ice.

I also saw a town square with lots of people running, and dark black clouds billowing up.  Everyone was running and I called out "Father!  Forgive us!"

Had a dream about a tsumnami hitting California.  I saw it from waaaay up.

Was taken over the middle east with Jesus and shown the war and destruction.  911 happened two weeks later.   



So there was generally information, but not specific times/dates. I figure it's enough info to go into intercession.  Gosh what would I do if I had been given a flight number and date??  (http://aevac://www.rtechsupport.com/forum/Smileys/default/th_scifD36.gif)

Have you had an inkling of something?



No I haven't had an inkling - but millerod invited me to be part of his Global Warning group - but they seem to have visions or dreams or something - I had nothing - so I felt like that was not my calling - felt very inadequate in trying to help him and his group. Just felt like I should get something or else I would always be holding the group back because they don't warn unless they get everyone in agreement - so I could not be in agreement if I didn't hear or see or feel something. They are a dedicated group and work hard to put all the pieces of the puzzle together - I didn't feel I had anything to contribute.

If it is not too personal - could you tell us about being taken to the Middle East - that is so interesting.
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: flaglady on August 14, 2008, 05:57:37 pm
I'd only been a Christian an few years, about 3 or 4, when I had a vision. The little free church I was in had applied to join the Vineyard group and the fellowship was interviewed in groups to find out what we felt about the church and the way it was run. Interviews which ultimately led to a major split of the church.

However, when I was sitting in the group, I noticed that we were sitting in a circle around the baptistry. In my head, suddenly this scenario began to play out. The water started running in the baptistry. It ran and ran until it began to overflow and then fill up the room - right up to the ceiling! At that point, it seems to almost solidify. Some of the people were still on the ground, looking up at the sheet of
solid water above us and there were other people, dancing and running around on top of the water.

In my ignorance I shared this with the group as I was both delighted to have received a vision and also eager to spill it out. I told them that I thought it meant we should move forward or we would be forever entrenched in what we had now. We would be paralysed like bugs in perspex. It was not well received!


However, I came to realise over the years that the visions was for ME! God was telling me if I stayed there I was the one going to be entombed in perspex, no-one else.

The moral of my story - be careful how and with whom you share your vision or word - it may not be for the one(s) that intially seems so obviously appropriate!
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: Pete on August 14, 2008, 06:07:28 pm
Good advice, Jo!

We just talked about this on Sunday at church.

Joseph thought it'd be a real swell idea to tell his brothers of the dream that God had given him.  In retrospect, that probably wasn't the wisest of decisions...  (http://www.rtechsupport.com/forum/Smileys/default/th_TFRD323.png)
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: flaglady on August 14, 2008, 06:12:42 pm
:rofl: So right! So right! Mind - had he not, it would rather have scuppered God's plans, doncha think!




Hey! I got a plaudit from Pete! That's like getting an Oscar! Way cool!
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: Hisgirl on August 14, 2008, 07:18:54 pm
Sharon, that is so amazing they have a global warming group.  To tell the truth, I don't receive a lot of what he says.  I just don't know...

As for the middle east thing....It happened during the night, three times over a two week period.  I was with Jesus and we were way up above the middle east.  He pointed out all the war and destruction that was in the middle east, or about to be in the middle east.  We were really high up.  That was it.  I wish I had thought of asking Him some cool stuff.  (http://www.rtechsupport.com/forum/Smileys/default/th_TFRD323.png)

Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: sharonl on August 14, 2008, 11:02:21 pm
Quote from: Hisgirl on August 14, 2008, 07:18:54 pm
Sharon, that is so amazing they have a global warming group.  To tell the truth, I don't receive a lot of what he says.  I just don't know...

As for the middle east thing....It happened during the night, three times over a two week period.  I was with Jesus and we were way up above the middle east.  He pointed out all the war and destruction that was in the middle east, or about to be in the middle east.  We were really high up.  That was it.  I wish I had thought of asking Him some cool stuff.  (http://aevac://www.rtechsupport.com/forum/Smileys/default/th_TFRD323.png)




No it is not a global warming group - it is a global WARNING group - they receive visions or dreams and different ways they receive of coming disasters and they warn people in that area.

That is so neat being with Jesus - WOW

What a Blessing.
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: Hisgirl on August 15, 2008, 12:07:09 am
Oh!
Well, that makes more sense!  I was thinking it was a big Al Gore support group who moved in the prophetic.  :lolflag:
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: sharonl on August 15, 2008, 08:08:04 am
Now thats a stretch of the imagination
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: DianeL on August 16, 2008, 07:12:13 am
Sharon, I've seen your posts and I believe you contribute muchly and often.  You are so encouraging and for myself, I could see the Lord speaking through you, amazing!

For myself, I haven't ever been given a warning or a word of warning for someone else so far and that's okay.

God is good, let Him speak to you however He chooses.   
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: sharonl on August 16, 2008, 09:15:39 am
Quote from: MissConStru on August 14, 2008, 06:12:42 pm
:rofl: So right! So right! Mind - had he not, it would rather have scuppered God's plans, doncha think!




Hey! I got a plaudit from Pete! That's like getting an Oscar! Way cool!



Guess I'm the only one here that doesn't know what a plaudit is because no one ask - what is a plaudit?
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: lovesblessing on August 16, 2008, 02:32:36 pm
Miss Sharon, the word is a fancy one for applause!  I sorta knew what it meant, but looked it up in Websters and that's the description of it!   

Sorta like the following definition of "pause"! (http://www.rtechsupport.com/forum/Smileys/default/winkcheeky.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMgKk9JpirM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMgKk9JpirM&feature=related)



Quote from: sharonl on August 16, 2008, 09:15:39 am


Guess I'm the only one here that doesn't know what a plaudit is because no one ask - what is a plaudit?
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Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: sharonl on August 16, 2008, 03:29:06 pm
Quote from: Hisgirl on August 14, 2008, 05:00:45 pm
Hmmm....a few of the warnings I have received came this way...

Had a dream about a delta L1011.  Saw it landing, and there was a thunderstorm going on just as it crashed.   Two days later a delta L1011 crashed in Dallas, in a thunderstorm.

Saw a white plane with an orange tail slide off a runway on ice.  A couple of days later a plane looking like that slid off a runway on ice.

I also saw a town square with lots of people running, and dark black clouds billowing up.  Everyone was running and I called out "Father!  Forgive us!"

Had a dream about a tsumnami hitting California.  I saw it from waaaay up.

Was taken over the middle east with Jesus and shown the war and destruction.  911 happened two weeks later.   



So there was generally information, but not specific times/dates. I figure it's enough info to go into intercession.  Gosh what would I do if I had been given a flight number and date??  (http://aevac://www.rtechsupport.com/forum/Smileys/default/th_scifD36.gif)

Have you had an inkling of something?


This Delta Plane crash - I worked for American Eagle at the time - we watched this plane crash out our window about 500 yeards away. Feeling of helplessness was all I could feel - stood there with tears running down my face and praying - it was awful - went up in flames immediately.
Title: Re: Does God give you a puzzle to put together - or tells you outright
Post by: flaglady on August 16, 2008, 04:32:27 pm
Plaudit:

- an enthusiastic expression of approval: "Her portrayal of Juliet won the plaudits of the critics."
- a demonstration or round of applause, as for some approved or admired performance.